Proletariat comrade
10:03
Is it feasible to go back home to farm work
Qian Ren0
10:59
Small production?
Proletariat comrade
11:09
I’m not sure either
But one thing is certain, I’m already on the verge of collapse
48
11:44
Proletariat comrade, what’s the situation?
Proletariat comrade
12:34
Terrible, the conflict with the Confucian father has intensified seriously; there’s an English class this afternoon, I plan to strike the class
Qian Ren0
13:00
Haven’t you had holidays?
Proletariat comrade
13:10
Holidays
After-school tutoring class
In the overview of the post-crisis period, these two actually lean toward organizations established by the petit bourgeois left, not considered Communist. As for activities during the Gaza War, you can look on Bilibili; there should be some, but due to limited strength they mainly did guerrilla activities, the main resistance was Hamas
Erishex
13:13
Okay I’ll look at this
After-school tutoring class
Qian Ren0
13:24
Proletariat comrade, if you need help, I suggest you explain the situation more clearly
Proletariat comrade
13:26
As a petty bourgeois rising class, I’m really being driven crazy, really want to seek help
Terrible, the conflict with the Confucian father has intensified seriously; there’s an English class this afternoon, I plan to strike the class
luanma
13:38
What would your father and the school do after you strike, how will you respond
Won’t they directly hit you or take your phone?
Proletariat comrade
13:40
They’ll take my main computer
Now fighting
luanma
13:45
Try to keep your phone first, I don’t know if tz had any plan beforehand, how the conflict was intensified, the struggle must be planned from the start, then you should fight to the end
Qian Ren0
13:45
Yes, you must keep your phone
Proletariat comrade
13:46
Can keep a spare device
Qian Ren0
13:46
What does your father require from you now? Is it only to take your phone?
luanma
13:47
Feels a bit fragmentary
Really need to understand the causes and consequences
Qian Ren0
13:47
Indeed
Really need to understand the causes and consequences
Qian Ren0
13:48
I’m afraid the current situation isn’t dangerous enough to permit him to talk
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Proletariat comrade
13:48
I feel I can’t explain clearly, so the problem has existed for a long time, I don’t know where to start
Afraid the current situation isn’t dangerous enough to allow him to speak
Proletariat comrade
13:49
The call has ended
Qian Ren0
13:49
What did your father say to you? Are you alone?
I feel I can’t explain clearly, so the problem has existed for a long time, I don’t know where to start
fxyc
13:50
How did this conflict erupt
Proletariat comrade
13:50
Let me think why we should study. He pulled out the argument that studying is useless to debate why I don’t want to study
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luanma
13:53
Incredible
13:53
This is too barbaric
How did this conflict erupt
Proletariat comrade
13:53
Yesterday he asked me to write English words and send them to him; I didn’t, the next day he asked if I still wanted to study, because we have to fight to enter a vocational school, I said no, which provoked the conflict
Qian Ren0
13:54
Incredible, what happened after he heard you say that? He said you want the phone?
Proletariat comrade
13:57
No, he wants me to turn off the phone and leave it under surveillance
fxyc
13:58
Incredible, is there a surveillance in your room
No, he wants me to turn off the phone and put it under surveillance
Qian Ren0
13:58
Do you have surveillance at home? You’re in another place, then your father somewhere else?
akaneko
13:58
Originally holidays should be for rest, keep a spare device, and fight them bravely. This tutoring class is indeed unnecessary
Proletariat comrade
13:59
Sigh
Holidays rest somewhere
Qian Ren0
14:01
Why say it like that?
Proletariat comrade
14:02
At least since primary school holidays I’ve been no different from going to school, at most I can bring my phone but can’t use it
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akaneko
14:03
Rights are won through struggle
Qian Ren0
14:04
Think of a problem: even if you’re not revolutionary now, you’re busy in middle school holidays, how would you handle high school? Busy as well? Not sleeping? You can’t even use your phone; isn’t that unreasonable? Which middle school student doesn’t have a phone they can use freely.
akaneko
14:04
You didn’t understand Marxism before, didn’t know how to struggle; now you’ve learned this struggle philosophy, you should put it into practice
Proletariat comrade
14:05
But my struggle is always a mess, struggling against the big bourgeois Confucian father, I have no chance at all
Qian Ren0
14:05
How to say it?
akaneko
14:06
They are all paper tigers; it’s not that difficult to skip tutoring
Qian Ren0
14:06
Yes
akaneko
14:06
tz defeatism is too serious
Qian Ren0
14:07
Too scary, mainly
Proletariat comrade
14:07
Indeed
akaneko
14:07
Don’t know why this happens
Fear that struggle will touch your own interests?
Proletariat comrade
14:07
Not
Qian Ren0
14:08
Your father is away, you’re afraid; when that day you face them, what will you do?
Proletariat comrade
14:08
I’m not afraid of him, I just think I can’t fight him, always fail
akaneko
14:09
Failures have reasons; why be weak and compromise
Proletariat comrade
14:09
Many situations are like this, defeatist mindset too heavy
akaneko
14:11
In the struggle with the Confucian parent, we’ve faced many; with help from the association, certainly fight, smash the room cameras, lock the door, skip tutoring, drop out of high school and college, and finally succeed. The key is whether you dare to fight
Failures have reasons, why be weak and compromise?
Proletariat comrade
14:11
My theoretical foundation shows clear deficits after indulging a few days ago
With the Confucian parent’s struggle, we’ve faced many; with association help, certainly fight; smash room cameras, lock doors, skip tutoring, drop out of high school and college, finally succeed. The key is whether you dare to fight
Proletariat comrade
14:12
But I am too weak
akaneko
14:12
How weak
Proletariat comrade
14:13
Many things I end up messing up
But my struggle is always a mess, struggling against the big bourgeois Confucian father, I have no chance at all
fxyc
14:13
This feudal patriarch is disgusting, installs surveillance on you, even when not around he needs to monitor you all day; TZ has thought of smashing the surveillance
Proletariat comrade
14:14
I haven’t thought of it
I’m not afraid of him, I just think I can’t fight him, always fail
Qian Ren0
14:14
Failure does not equal surrender. You struggle with him; it’s normal to fail often because the other side is too strong, but you should continue to struggle, constantly summarize experience, and you will eventually win. We never required that at the first attempt you must win; continuous struggle, continuous learning, will surely lead to victory.
Many things I end up messing up
fxyc
14:14
When past things went wrong, analyze causes specifically, learn from them, change; why stand still and lament you can’t accomplish anything
Many things I end up messing up
Qian Ren0
14:15
Summarize experiences?
Proletariat comrade
14:17
Some, but failure looms larger than success, hence lack of self-confidence
akaneko
14:19
tz tell how you used to do things, how you fought, and how you failed
Qian Ren0
14:19
tz can start a post
Proletariat comrade
14:19
Okay
Erishex
14:22
Open a post to tz
No, tell me to turn off the phone and put it under surveillance
Erishex
14:25
Remove it? Don’t quite understand your struggle with your father, what’s in your mind
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讲讲现实例子,你父亲是怎么家暴你的
I think there have been quite a few times of domestic violence
Proletariat comrade
14:28
No
Confucian father’s offensives always suppress or disguise with sweet words
The only ones who have truly abused me are Confucian mother
Confucian father’s offensives always suppress or disguise with sweet words
Erishex
14:40
How to suppress
Proletariat comrade
14:42
With hard-hitting language force his reasons into me
Erishex
14:42
Then that’s impossible to command you to put down your phone and face surveillance; surely Confucian mother helps him
Proletariat comrade
14:43
They live separately
If next time Confucian father finds me and asks whether I still want to study, what should I do?
Confucian father’s offensives always suppress or disguise with sweet words
akaneko
14:45
Then how did your struggle with him fail? Did you face suppression and surrender, or surrender to the disguise?
Proletariat comrade
14:46
This time?
akaneko
14:46
Earlier; this time isn’t it still in progress
Proletariat comrade
14:48
I hardly struggle with Confucian father; most times I face weakening of resistant thoughts
akaneko
14:50
Why not fight for your rights, don’t understand what you fear
Confucian parents become more arrogant and tighten control as you become weaker
Beifeng
14:51
Right, if you weaken in front of Confucian father, he’ll immediately use a pile of reasons to oppress you. I used to be like that
Proletariat comrade
14:53
Yes
Beifeng
14:54
Anger is to be unleashed
What slave owner
From young, taught to be obedient; as long as you obey, no one gets angry; plus you are from a bourgeois family, life is comfortable
Beifeng
14:56
It seems tz fears losing personal interests? Is that why?
From young, taught to be obedient; as long as you obey, you won’t be angry; plus you’re from bourgeois family, life is comfortable
Erishex
14:56
I understand now; the tz’s repeated angry blasts from Confucian father aren’t seen as a result of your personal mistakes, but as a result of class society
Beifeng
15:03
I rarely see him sharply criticize workers
Sometimes he even cooks for workers
Proletariat comrade
15:04
Previously he was a shop manager
Later a regional manager, I’m not sure how he treats workers
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Beifeng
15:06
Is tz doing housework now?
Proletariat comrade
15:08
Not, yesterday grandma came back from the homeland, I’ve gradually become parasitic again
Very ashamed
Beifeng
15:11
tz should continue doing housework; you seem unable to participate in wage labor now, you should persist in doing housework to cultivate labor awareness; staying parasitic for too long won’t help
Proletariat comrade
15:13
So if Confucian father talks to me again, what should I do?
Beifeng
15:15
You must fight him in written debate, with reason and evidence to refute his distortions, provided you dare to fight, and aren’t afraid of being oppressed
Now tz must pick up housework again, continue studying
You must persist in the struggle; everyone will do their best to help you
Proletariat comrade
15:17
Do you understand “study is useless” yet?
Beifeng
15:19
It isn’t that simple; now jumping to university and graduation nearly leads to unemployment; unemployment rate is high; the education institutions teach a bunch of dead, detached things; for example, math is taught with counting principles just to solve problems
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Remember a quote on Bilibili: many university delinquents complain about courses being useless
Proletariat comrade
15:24
I told Confucian father these too; he says this is your current task, it can cultivate your diligent, researching character; now studying it is to be used at a certain moment
Beifeng
15:25
Nonsense; what about physical labor being more capable to cultivate character
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I told Confucian father these too; he says this is your current task, it can cultivate your diligent, researching character; now studying it is to be used at a certain moment
Beifeng
15:27
People who always study in class and don’t work, what kind of abstract “diligence and research” can they have? It’s only to facilitate speculation, to become a person at the top
Proletariat comrade
15:28
Indeed
I told Confucian father these too; he says this is your current task, it can cultivate your diligent, researching character; now studying it is to be used at a certain moment
Beifeng
15:29
And it will be used; now many graduates find jobs not related to their majors; even then there’s onboarding training; the stuff taught is useless
I told Confucian father these too; he says this is your current task, it can cultivate your diligent, researching character; now studying it is to be used at a certain moment
Beifeng
15:30
What else did Confucian father say?
Qian Ren0
15:30
Has Beifeng had holidays?
Proletariat comrade
15:31
“What is in the textbooks is adapted to current society, not eight-legged essays”
I told Confucian father these too; he says this is your current task, it can cultivate your diligent, researching character; now studying it is to be used at a certain moment
Erishex
15:33
He’s asked you about your opinions on what your parents are doing at home?
No, tell me to turn off the phone and put it under surveillance
螺丝钉
15:33
Earlier you said there’s no surveillance in the house, is this new?
Your dad is crazy
Proletariat comrade
15:33
It’s in the living room
If Confucian father asks again whether I still want to study, what should I do?
Confucian father’s offensives always suppress or disguise with sweet words
akaneko
14:45
Then how did your struggle with him fail? Did you face suppression and surrender, or surrender to the disguises?
Proletariat comrade
14:46
This time?
akaneko
14:46
Earlier; this time isn’t it still in progress
Proletariat comrade
14:48
I hardly struggle with Confucian father; most times I face weakening of resistant thoughts
akaneko
14:50
Why not fight for your rights, don’t understand what you fear
Confucian parents become more arrogant and tighten control as you become weaker
Beifeng
14:51
Right, tz fears losing personal interests; is that why?
From young, taught to be obedient; as long as you obey, no one gets angry; plus you’re from bourgeois family, life is comfortable
Beifeng
14:56
It seems tz fears losing personal interests, is that why?
From young, taught to be obedient; as long as you obey, no one gets angry; plus you’re from bourgeois family, life is comfortable
Beifeng
15:04
The exact position
Proletariat comrade
15:04
He was a shop manager before
Later a regional manager; I’m not sure how he treats workers
(edited)
Beifeng
15:06
Is tz doing household chores now?
Proletariat comrade
15:08
Not, yesterday grandma returned from hometown, I’ve gradually become parasitic again
Very ashamed
Beifeng
15:11
tz should continue doing housework; you now cannot participate in wage labor; you should persist in doing housework to cultivate labor consciousness; long parasitism won’t help
Proletariat comrade
15:13
So if Confucian father talks to me again, what should I do?
Beifeng
15:15
You must fight him in writing, with reason and evidence to refute his distortions, provided you dare to fight, not afraid of being oppressed
Now tz must pick up housework, continue studying
You must persist in the struggle; everyone will do their best to help you
Proletariat comrade
15:17
Do you understand “studying is useless” yet?
Beifeng
15:19
Not exactly; now jumping to university leads to unemployment; unemployment rate is high; universities teach a lot of dead, detached stuff; for example, our math teacher recently taught counting principles, just to count how many solutions a problem has
(edited)
Remember a line on Bilibili’s quote under a popular video; many university students abroad complain about courses being useless
Proletariat comrade
15:24
I told Confucian father these too; he says this is your current task, it can cultivate your diligent, researching character; now studying it is to be used at a certain moment
Beifeng
15:25
Nonsense; where is there anything more capable of cultivating character than physical labor
(edited)
I told Confucian father these too; he says this is your current task, it can cultivate your diligent, researching character; now studying it is to be used at a certain moment
Beifeng
15:27
People who always study in class and do not work, what kind of abstract “diligence and research” can they have? It’s only to facilitate ulterior motives, to become someone at the top
And it will be used
Beifeng
15:29
What else did Confucian father say?
Qian Ren0
15:30
Has Beifeng had holidays?
Proletariat comrade
15:31
“What’s in the textbooks is adapted to current society, not eight-legged essays”
I told Confucian father these too; he says this is your current task, it can cultivate your diligent, researching character; now studying it is to be used at a certain moment
Erishex
15:33
He asked about your opinions on what your parents are doing at home?
No, tell me to turn off the phone and put it under surveillance
螺丝钉
15:33
Earlier you said there’s no surveillance in the house, is this new? Your dad is crazy
Proletariat comrade
15:33
It’s in the living room
If Confucian father asks again whether I still want to study, what should I do?
Confucian father’s offensives always suppress or disguise with sweet words
螺丝钉
15:35
What is tz’s attitude toward struggle now
额
Beifeng
15:38
What happened, this “um”
What is tz’s attitude toward struggle now
螺丝钉
15:41
Why not respond @Proletariat comrade
Beifeng
15:41
Does tz have concerns?
Erishex
15:42
Not clear, can talk
Proletariat comrade
15:43
I’m almost at my wit’s end; I can’t fight the Confucian father in scholarly debate
Fenghuo Flame
15:57
You’re not at your wit’s end; you just want to surrender
Why not smash the surveillance directly
The tz has been living as a dependent student for so long, raised by family since childhood, no independence
Proletariat comrade
15:58
The struggle isn’t over, I never thought of giving up
Fenghuo Flame
15:58
At a critical moment you can only be manipulated by others
A parasite always fed by others won’t have the courage to fight
Proletariat comrade
15:58
Exactly
Fenghuo Flame
15:59
In the end it’s a matter of ideology
As long as you decide to say goodbye to parasitism and do your own things, you must fight to gain freedom from your family
Then there’s no reason you can’t win
This is a recent discussion that happened at People’s Square; it seems related to this article, so I present it here as a real-world example for everyone to discuss.